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StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.11 13:36:00 - [1] Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 11/03/2006 13:36:17 im personally ashamed of ccp for selling out. we here play the game with relative freedom because of the countries we belong to. everytime our western companies change the way they work to go to china they are giving the chinese **s in the red party legitamesy . shame on you ccp shame on google shame on all western companies STAN** FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallante people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.11 14:52:00 - [2] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: StiZum Hilidii im personally ashamed of ccp for selling out. we here play the game with relative freedom because of the countries we belong to. everytime our western companies change the way they work to go to china they are giving the chinese **s in the red party legitamesy . Why aren't they legitimate? Do they not have the right to choose a different form of government than us? How arrogant of you. Now stop trying to turn this thread into a political flamewar. ok you may be a forum warrior and i dont have the time to keep up with you but im not arrogant and tbh you seem retarded they dont have the right to choose thats the point!!! you retard they arent even allowed to look up different ideas about how their country is ruled cos guess what thats out lawed and you go to prison to belong to a different political party gets you in jail to say out loud you think your government isnt doing the right thing guess what gets you in jail to protest against your government guess what GETS YOU SHOT to look up info about tibet is banned and could get you in jjail to belong to a religion that isnt allowed by their government gets you in jail. my point is mr dark idiot they dont have the choice and by bringing this game to china we are saying that we are fine with how they treat their people. you sir disgust me oh and btw to relate it to the topic lol at so many people wanting to play eve i just hope they are allowed to choose to be a gallante and dont get put in prison for having a corp vote on something STAN** FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallante people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.11 19:01:00 - [3] Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 11/03/2006 19:02:42 Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/03/2006 18:47:38 Originally by: StiZum Hilidii total bullcrap Your post is incredibly misinformed. I'd suggest you do some research on the topic before you flame a company simply because they sell to people in a country that happens to have a type of government you don't agree with. Tons of Chinese companies sell to America even though to them democracy is an imperialist, corrupt governmental system. Why should it be any different the other way around? so are you sat behind the chinese firewall or something or did you not see what i wrtoe are you saying all of the things i said about living in china were untruee? and that really they have the choice to choose a different form of government without fear of retaliation? cos thats what you started the arguement over so common say im wrong. say that tienamen square didnt happen tell me the names of the opposition parties show me the bloggers that can post all they like until yahoo gives thier detaisl to china. and guess what mate we can actually talk about this and have a good old debate about our different issues and even though we dont agree im not going to throw you in jail or tortue you. how many chinese would love to have the oppurtunity we have STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.11 23:40:00 - [4] i am actually BRITISH STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.12 00:24:00 - [5] he infered that i was american so i was setting him right STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.12 19:02:00 - [6] Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 12/03/2006 19:02:45 if i was bnp why would i give a dam about china and its citizens and the fact your asking if im a bnp member seriously narks me im actually a paid up member of the conservative party and on the pro europe side read what i wrote if you still wondering if im a bnp member then all i can say is dam you must have been hit on the head hard STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.12 19:09:00 - [7] Originally by: Benglada Originally by: StiZum Hilidii Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 11/03/2006 15:00:50 Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: StiZum Hilidii im personally ashamed of ccp for selling out. we here play the game with relative freedom because of the countries we belong to. everytime our western companies change the way they work to go to china they are giving the chinese **s in the red party legitamesy . Why aren't they legitimate? Do they not have the right to choose a different form of government than us? How arrogant of you. Now stop trying to turn this thread into a political flamewar. ok you may be a forum warrior and i dont have the time to keep up with you but im not arrogant and tbh you seem anaware they dont have the right to choose thats the point!!! you retard they arent even allowed to look up different ideas about how their country is ruled cos guess what thats out lawed and you go to prison to belong to a different political party gets you in jail to say out loud you think your government isnt doing the right thing guess what gets you in jail to protest against your government guess what GETS YOU SHOT to look up info about tibet is banned and could get you in jjail to belong to a religion that isnt allowed by their government gets you in jail. my point is mr dark idiot they dont have the choice and by bringing this game to china we are saying that we are fine with how they treat their people. you sir disgust me oh and btw to relate it to the topic lol at so many people wanting to play eve i just hope they are allowed to choose to be a gallante and dont get put in prison for having a corp vote on something How is supplying them with entertainment say we agree with their type of government? Would you also potest against us supplying toilet paper? Pillows? Candles? That would just make the situation WORSE not BETTER. I agree with shikari on all accounts. do you also agree with shikari that chinese people have a choice in how they are governed. and my point was that sure supplying with food and stuff is fine. thing people need e.t.c to keep them going. by big corporations changing the way they do buisness in order to take away some of the freedoms we all enjoy here im saying that its a step to far and is siding with the government over the people. the fact that some one in china cannot make a blog on the internet about how they disagree with their government without yahoo giving their name to china in order for them to be imprisoned, if you think all this is correct and how it should be then my god what country are you from and please i hope you never get elected we are all doomed STAN** FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:29:00 - [8] Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 13/03/2006 00:34:32 Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 13/03/2006 00:29:32 actually my keyboard says made in taiwan w00t. and yes alot of stuff is made in china i cant help but buy it seeing how the vast majority of stuff is made there. doesnt mean i agree with it. i would love to see companies producing else where but they dont and i have no choice most of the time. i buy american food doesnt mean i love bush i buy french mustard doesnt mean i like chirac and again i point out that i dislike many areas of how my country deals with the world but im aloud to say that unlike in china i know some of you may think im looking at old ideas of china BUT UNTIL CHINA HAS FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS with the possibility of people voting for a change in their government. and until we see a change in their press and until we see a change in their foreign policy i maintain that changing our buisnesses to support the chinese government is wrong and thats that, yes we buy chinese products, our markets are flooded with them by the people who fill our shops, our markets are trying to resist but they cant forever. i dont know what the answer is to it all but i do not enjoy the idea of ccp changing the way they work in order to pander to the worst kind of people in the world in my mind the leaders of china rank up there with the worst dictators you can think of, i wont name them because i think thats not allowed :( but you know who i mean. and every other authoriarian who silences people with force and brutality and fear of death. until you can show me a truely free china ill keep my views and do everything i can do to express that view. it might not be alot but ill try. STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:34:00 - [9] just a final note i see this alot in american media and such and i think it demonstrates something we need to remember "i dont agree with what you say but i will defend your right to say it till i die" something along those lines and its true for all of you, i might not like what some of you have said but i would defend your right to say it till the last,if only our friends in china could say the same thing STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:46:00 - [10] you might have that point i guess in the uk we have the laws saying you cannot incite terrorism and by praising os@ma you could be judged to be doing that. i guess all i can say is we have relative freedom of speech. i could in the uk praise os@ma for say playing cricket very well but if i praised him for killing alot of people then that would get me in trouble because my freedom of speech does not overide peoples right to live without fear of terrorism or being killed in a terrorist attack. our freedom of speech allows us to criticise our government. mock our government question faith debate different ideals china does not allow for these acts of freedom i guess what im saying is that freedom oof speech is a great right that we enjoy as long as it doesnt encroach on others given rights to live a safe life. while i guess this is a different matter for discussion in terms of how free is our speech i would like to point out that although we are curtailed in terms of how it effects others and could damage others we are given amazing amounts of scope in terms of how we use our freedom of speech. i just wish this slightly limited freedom was shared by all STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:52:00 - [11] w0rmy alot of the time my financial limitations force me too. if i could afford to buy from other sources i would but if i didnt buy this keyboard i couldnt argue with you and that would make me sad:( and in terms of countries that dont beat you for freedom of speech. i went on a couple of marches against raising student payments. is houted oi blair why you robbing me and such things guess what i wasnt beaten or anything so im gonna say britain. if i perform my free speech without damaging property or hurting others i can speak my mind and not fear reprisals if we didnt have freedom of speech without threat of violence the houses of commons would be drenched in bloood every time the opposition moked the prime minsiter sharp shooters would take him out, now i know we have had a fair few tory leaders but i dont think its for that reason. STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.13 01:11:00 - [12] your right i know w0rmy its about the bottom line and generating more of the nice numbers. they do make money in europe though and a fair old wod of it and i guess in our capatalist world we enjoy the profit is the major driving force. but there are alot of other markets ccp could explore such as the korean market and such. but im no buisness man so im sure im flawed there some where. i just feel that every western company that goes into china does so without considering the moral implications above those of profit. and i really wonder if this is a world i wanna be apart of that consider the bottom line over basic human rights STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2006.03.13 08:25:00 - [13] on a less serious note i would love to know if ccp are going to keep the following story lines and in game tools gallente elections for a president corp votes on going to war/shares gallente as a race STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy!

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